no catchy title.
people in other countries like to help the poor immigrants fleeing poverty or hostile situations in their homelands. but here in the u.s. we like to arrest them throw them into jail then kick their brown asses back where they came from. because..well...they dont have any money so theyre obviously of little use to us. its ironic that our christ worshiping politicians refuse to apply the golden rule to the destitute. i think our government needs to take an ethics and humanities course and learn how to treat people.
posted by veganerd at 8:55 AM
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Wow... You're making a lot of inferences there.
people in other countries like to help the poor immigrants fleeing poverty or hostile situations in their homelands.
Is that a Spanish government program? Looks to me like it's the Red Cross, which offers similar resources to immigrants here in the US.
If you did a little research, you'd note that this same political issue is flaring up over there. For example, behold the power of google!
Bottom line, they have deportations and illegal immigrants too.
its ironic that our christ worshiping politicians refuse to apply the golden rule to the destitute.
Interesting... you're asking that they mix their faith with their politics. Isn't that, as you've said previously, part of the problem with America?
That said, I agree to a certain extent. We do need to help those less fortunate. Two problems: It shouldn't be the government's job/responsibility and we shouldn't be helping those who immigrate illegally.
America's borders are still more open that 99% of the world. If you want to come here, play by the rules and we'll help.
i think our government needs to take an ethics and humanities course and learn how to treat people.
And yet again I ask the question: On what basis do you assert that what they're doing isn't ethical? Illegal immigrants (and poor legal immigrants) deplete resources and result in an inability to help more 'home grown' Americans. Sound like their making the honest choice to help their own.
I don't agree with that logic, mind you... But unless there's some moral imperative, they aren't doing anything that's truly morally 'wrong'.
You can't have both sides of the coin, my friend.
"Looks to me like it's the Red Cross"
actually the article says that beachgoers were the first lending a hand, giving them water and food. its a stark contrast to the attitudes of a lot people here in the u.s. take the minutemen for example.
"If you did a little research, you'd note that this same political issue is flaring up over there"
no its not the same issue. they arent sending them back to the situations they escaped from because of mistreatment. here in the u.s. thats not the case. the law here allows people to be kicked out even in the face of certain death. spin is even looking to offer assistance to the countries the imigrants are comming from so that they have better lives.
"Interesting... you're asking that they mix their faith with their politics. Isn't that, as you've said previously, part of the problem with America?"
yes and i stand by that. what i wrote doesnt conflict with that. read where i used the word ironic. its ironic that you missed that.
"Illegal immigrants (and poor legal immigrants) deplete resources and result in an inability to help more 'home grown' Americans."
this statement is funny for a couple of reasons. the people of the u.s. waste more than any other country. we are full of wasted resources. please tell me what study you are citing that says our resourdes are being depleted by illegal immigrants so that our citizens dont get any.
secondly its funny because you used the phrase "homegrown americans" to refer to people in the united states. this is typical of the arrogant attitude of many in this country who seem to think that the u.s. is the only american country. all those people from mexico comming into the u.s. are just as american as you and me. think im wrong? go ahead and check out a map.
secondly its funny because you used the phrase "homegrown americans" to refer to people in the united states. this is typical of the arrogant attitude of many in this country who seem to think that the u.s. is the only american country.
Again, I don't agree with that logic... I'm just saying it's out there.
all those people from mexico comming into the u.s. are just as american as you and me. think im wrong? go ahead and check out a map.
As soon as the legally immigrate, I agree 100%. It's not an issue of who's allowed 'in' or not... It's an issue of playing by the rules.
actually the article says that beachgoers were the first lending a hand, giving them water and food.
Yes, until the Red Cross arrived... And I can't think of many Americans who wouldn't do the same thing. But if the issue, as you stated, is one of our bad deportation practices then you're point is moot.
Spain's likely to deport these people as well. They got a meal from sunbathers and the Red Cross, much the same as they would in the US. Interestingly, so long as they were guests of the US government awaiting deportation, they'd also be fed and cared for.
Spain will deport them much faster, on average, than the US will.
"As soon as the legally immigrate, I agree 100%. It's not an issue of who's allowed 'in' or not... It's an issue of playing by the rules."
a swing and a miss! you obviously didnt get what i was saying. mexicans from mexico are american without ever going anywhere. just like poeple in canada, argentina, brazil, panama, chilie, venezuela....the list goes on and on. theyre ALL americans. check out a map like i said. you will see that some of them are from north america others from central america and the rest from south america. the point is that the united states isnt the only country in the americas. citizens in the u.s. for some reason think we are the only ones who can be called american just because we use the name of the continent that our country is in for the name of our country. like i said...thats arrogant.
theres the windup...the pitch...he swings...it could be..yes!! its outta here!!!!
(as an aside i would recommend using funny bits of allegories within your stories. it makes for better reading.)
...and the crowd goes wild!!!
I've travelled extensively in North, Central, and South America. And I can honestly tell you that I've never heard a single person there refer to themselves as 'Americans'.
They do refer to us that way.
At the very least, mine was a foul tip.
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